Posts by Fuzzy Hollynoodles

1) Message boards : Current tests : New crediting system (Message 2197)
Posted 20 Aug 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:

A user can fake the [edit: claimed credits, not the internal benchmark] by just editing a file just as a user can fake the numbers of decoys generated. The difference is that we can validate the decoys and catch cheaters. Unless we start encrypting data or use redundancy, the system is not going to be fake proof.


No, it's not.

I have my last Ralph WU in my cache, and when that's returned, I'll move my Ralph share to uFluids. So this is goodbye from me.

I don't expect a personal thank you for my contribution from David Baker, let alone a thank you from him on my teamboard.

Goodbye.


2) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.25 (Message 1885)
Posted 5 Jul 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
Windows Runtime Error.

http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=185165

Result: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/result.php?resultid=209160

3) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.23 (Message 1815)
Posted 11 Jun 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
We fixed something in the interaction of Rosetta with BOINC to trigger more informative debugging messages upon crashes. Please continue to post what goes wrong!


We will, as soon we're able to get some. :-/


4) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Project down? (Message 1813)
Posted 10 Jun 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
I have four completed 5.22 wu's that seem to have uploaded OK, but whenever they try to 'report' I get a project down message. I don't see anything on the project status page that would cause this. Anyone else having problems or is it just me?


I have the same problem and also have a 5.22 WU I can't report. :-(

I think we'll have to wait till Monday for somebody to come and start the feeder up again. :-(


5) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.22 (Message 1802)
Posted 8 Jun 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
First 5.22 ran fine, no problems.

http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=148997

Result: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/result.php?resultid=167634

Good work, David and Rom. :-)

6) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.21 (Message 1779)
Posted 6 Jun 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
And the next finished fine:

http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=134423

Result: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/result.php?resultid=152501

No problems so far. :-)

7) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.21 (Message 1778)
Posted 6 Jun 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
One successfull finished:

http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=129796

Result: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/result.php?resultid=151527

It uploaded fine after finishing.

But it was a huge protein! After 3 hours it was at the same first model. And it ran almost 4 hours, even I have Target CPU run time to 2 hours.


8) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.20 (Message 1775)
Posted 5 Jun 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
Hi everybody: Rom and I fixed this silly watchdog thing. I'm sending out work now with ralph 5.21! Thanks for helping us out with this.



Ok, let me give it a try again.


9) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.20 (Message 1769)
Posted 5 Jun 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
Rom tells me it is waiting for the watchdog to finish for debugging.

Here is his response:

"When I added code .... to wait until
the thread is finished, it stalls for up to 30 minutes waiting until
watchdog makes its next check."

I think the watchdog can take up to 2x the cpu run time pref, which may explain the longer stalls.


Yes, but my problem is that my computer goes into sleepmode after 15 minutes, and what then? Then it takes untill I get to it and can start it again. And then, if I'm unlucky, I can sit and wait with an idle computer for one hour untill the clock triggers the upload.

No, I'm still on No new work here. :-(


10) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.20 (Message 1757)
Posted 3 Jun 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
I ran 3 work units.

Two actually completed but I suspect the "dormant" bug is still present as this first work (149120) unit completed in EXACTLY 1 hour with 36 min of CPU time, and this other one (149885) completed in EXACTLY 2 hours with 81 min of CPU time.

...

Mike


The "dormant" bug was in this one also: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=131456

Result: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/result.php?resultid=148875

And unmonitored my computer went into sleepmode, so it started to upload, when I got back to my computer again. This means that my computer was idle for some time, where it could have crunched something else. :-(

So I aborted the next WU and I have set Ralph to No new work, untill you have this sorted out. I will not have a computer being in sleepmode for a longer time untill I can get to it again, so it can continue crunching. In worst case it can be for a whole day. :-(


EDIT: Can't you make a watchdog to activate the WU again, after it has been idle for, let's say 3 minutes? Or 5 minutes? Not crunching my computer goes into sleepmode after 15 minutes.

11) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.17-5.19 (Message 1750)
Posted 2 Jun 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
I ran into one of those 'stuck' abrelax wu's overnite:
resid 144202
running ralph 5.19 on my P-M laptop. It showed 100% done at 3:14:58 CPU time, but no activity, screensaver wouldn't come up (blank area only), task manager showed all cycles going to System Idle Process. Suspended acty and re-started Boinc, no-joy. Closed BM and re-started machine, brought it back up, no-joy. Aborted the WU and BM went right back to work. Didn't want to wait ?16hrs? (4x4) to see if it would somehow wake-up and finish on its own!


My experiance with this is that it will always finish within one hour of getting into this mode. If you look at the messages, and see when the WU started, take the minutes and seconds portion (like 5:10:20). When your PC time (wall time) reaches the same minutes and seconds (like 7:10:20), the work unit will complete. I know its weird, but thats what I am seeing.

Mike


Yes, this is really weird.

I have one stuck right now: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=129926

I took this screendump of the BOINC Manager: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/lsh55/Setiweb/Ralph/BOINC_Mgr_Ralph.jpg


And this is the graphic: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/lsh55/Setiweb/Ralph/RalphWU.jpg

This is really weird, the screen is rolling very fast to the left and this "band" is showing at the bottom of the screen.


I'll leave it as it is and see if it will finish as you say at the minute. Else I'll abort it.



And yes, take a look at this log:

6/2/2006 8:08:25 PM|ralph@home|Resuming task t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_nterm_hom013__613_8_0 using rosetta_beta version 519
6/2/2006 8:08:25 PM|SETI@home|Deferring task 14ja99aa.5585.24832.678406.3.226_0
6/2/2006 8:08:25 PM|ralph@home|Pausing task t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_nterm_hom013__613_8_0 (removed from memory)

…

6/2/2006 8:08:44 PM|ralph@home|Restarting task t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_nterm_hom013__613_8_0 using rosetta_beta version 519
6/2/2006 8:08:45 PM|rosetta@home|Pausing task t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_nterm_hom002__637_621_1 (removed from memory)

...

6/2/2006 9:08:46 PM||Rescheduling CPU: application exited
6/2/2006 9:08:46 PM|ralph@home|Computation for task t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_nterm_hom013__613_8_0 finished
6/2/2006 9:08:46 PM|rosetta@home|Resuming task t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_nterm_hom002__637_621_1 using rosetta version 516
6/2/2006 9:08:48 PM|ralph@home|Started upload of file t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_nterm_hom013__613_8_0_0
6/2/2006 9:08:53 PM|ralph@home|Finished upload of file t296__CASP7_ABINITIO_SAVE_ALL_OUT_nterm_hom013__613_8_0_0
6/2/2006 9:08:53 PM|ralph@home|Throughput 7090 bytes/sec



Now, this is weird.

12) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.17-5.19 (Message 1749)
Posted 2 Jun 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
I ran into one of those 'stuck' abrelax wu's overnite:
resid 144202
running ralph 5.19 on my P-M laptop. It showed 100% done at 3:14:58 CPU time, but no activity, screensaver wouldn't come up (blank area only), task manager showed all cycles going to System Idle Process. Suspended acty and re-started Boinc, no-joy. Closed BM and re-started machine, brought it back up, no-joy. Aborted the WU and BM went right back to work. Didn't want to wait ?16hrs? (4x4) to see if it would somehow wake-up and finish on its own!


My experiance with this is that it will always finish within one hour of getting into this mode. If you look at the messages, and see when the WU started, take the minutes and seconds portion (like 5:10:20). When your PC time (wall time) reaches the same minutes and seconds (like 7:10:20), the work unit will complete. I know its weird, but thats what I am seeing.

Mike


Yes, this is really weird.

I have one stuck right now: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=129926

I took this screendump of the BOINC Manager: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/lsh55/Setiweb/Ralph/BOINC_Mgr_Ralph.jpg


And this is the graphic: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/lsh55/Setiweb/Ralph/RalphWU.jpg

This is really weird, the screen is rolling very fast to the left and this "band" is showing at the bottom of the screen.


I'll leave it as it is and see if it will finish as you say at the minute. Else I'll abort it.

13) Message boards : Cafe RALPH : SOMEone PLEASE vote SOMEONE for user of the day!! (Message 1677)
Posted 19 May 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
Woooot a new user of the day :)

Anders n

I miss him already


Me too! :-D

It was nice to come here and see a wellknown familiar face. ;-D


14) Message boards : Cafe RALPH : Anyone out there? (Message 1676)
Posted 19 May 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
it doesn't appear, that many read these boards, or maybe they're just too busy/ignoring the cafe to respond.


Well, it is a test project, not for socializing, just as the Cafe over at Seti Beta/Astropulse.

No, I only read here to see if there's some new tests and if one of my Ralph WU's is not behaving. Then I read to see if there's any messages about the current test WU's and to report any misbehaving or crashed WU's.

But one could want this little corner of cyberspace as a haven of tranquility in all the turmoil over at Seti at the moment. Shesh!


15) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.14 (Message 1600)
Posted 12 May 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
I wanted my Seti Beta 5.14 WU finished, so I suspended the 5.14 Ralph WU, which apparently killed it (or what?)

http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=97405

Result: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/result.php?resultid=111703

From my log:

5/13/2006 12:57:29 AM|SETI@home|Restarting task 01mr99aa.26277.31696.309670.3.101_1 using setiathome_enhanced version 512
5/13/2006 12:57:29 AM|SETI@home Beta Test|Pausing task 05au01ab.24507.112.847158.3.93_6 (removed from memory)
5/13/2006 12:58:58 AM||Rescheduling CPU: result suspended, resumed or aborted by user
5/13/2006 12:58:58 AM|SETI@home|Pausing task 01mr99aa.26277.31696.309670.3.101_1 (removed from memory)
5/13/2006 12:58:58 AM|ralph@home|Starting task MAPRELAX_TEST_hom003_1fna__509_6_0 using rosetta_beta version 514
5/13/2006 12:59:01 AM||Rescheduling CPU: result suspended, resumed or aborted by user
5/13/2006 12:59:02 AM|rosetta@home|Restarting task TEST_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom003_1fna__503_12404_0 using rosetta version 513
5/13/2006 12:59:02 AM|ralph@home|Pausing task MAPRELAX_TEST_hom003_1fna__509_6_0 (removed from memory)
5/13/2006 12:59:03 AM|ralph@home|Unrecoverable error for result MAPRELAX_TEST_hom003_1fna__509_6_0 (Forkert funktion. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1))
5/13/2006 12:59:03 AM|ralph@home|Deferring scheduler requests for 1 minutes and 0 seconds
5/13/2006 12:59:03 AM||Rescheduling CPU: application exited
5/13/2006 12:59:03 AM|ralph@home|Computation for task MAPRELAX_TEST_hom003_1fna__509_6_0 finished

5/13/2006 12:59:06 AM||Rescheduling CPU: result suspended, resumed or aborted by user
5/13/2006 12:59:06 AM|LHC@home|Restarting task wfeb1A_v6s4vvnom_mqx__19__64.258_59.268__4_6__6__75_1_sixvf_boinc202329_1 using sixtrack version 467
5/13/2006 12:59:06 AM|rosetta@home|Pausing task TEST_HOMOLOG_ABRELAX_hom003_1fna__503_12404_0 (removed from memory)
5/13/2006 12:59:09 AM||Rescheduling CPU: result suspended, resumed or aborted by user
5/13/2006 12:59:10 AM|LHC@home|Pausing task wfeb1A_v6s4vvnom_mqx__19__64.258_59.268__4_6__6__75_1_sixvf_boinc202329_1 (removed from memory)
5/13/2006 12:59:10 AM|LHC@home|Starting task wfeb1A_v6s4vvnom_mqx__3__64.265_59.275__10_12__6__55_1_sixvf_boinc181092_5 using sixtrack version 467
5/13/2006 12:59:14 AM||Rescheduling CPU: result suspended, resumed or aborted by user
5/13/2006 12:59:15 AM|SETI@home Beta Test|Restarting task 05au01ab.24507.112.847158.3.93_6 using setiathome_enhanced version 514
5/13/2006 12:59:15 AM|LHC@home|Pausing task wfeb1A_v6s4vvnom_mqx__3__64.265_59.275__10_12__6__55_1_sixvf_boinc181092_5 (removed from memory)
5/13/2006 12:59:15 AM|SETI@home Beta Test|Sending scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/beta_cgi/cgi
5/13/2006 12:59:15 AM|SETI@home Beta Test|Reason: To fetch work
5/13/2006 12:59:15 AM|SETI@home Beta Test|Requesting 3994 seconds of new work
5/13/2006 12:59:20 AM|SETI@home Beta Test|Scheduler request succeeded
5/13/2006 12:59:22 AM|SETI@home Beta Test|Started download of file 01jn01aa.7728.12640.709662.3.121
5/13/2006 12:59:35 AM|SETI@home Beta Test|Finished download of file 01jn01aa.7728.12640.709662.3.121
5/13/2006 12:59:35 AM|SETI@home Beta Test|Throughput 29497 bytes/sec
5/13/2006 12:59:36 AM||Rescheduling CPU: files downloaded
5/13/2006 12:59:56 AM|ralph@home|Sending scheduler request to http://ralph.bakerlab.org/ralph_cgi/cgi
5/13/2006 12:59:56 AM|ralph@home|Reason: Requested by user
5/13/2006 12:59:56 AM|ralph@home|Reporting 1 tasks
5/13/2006 1:00:01 AM|ralph@home|Scheduler request succeeded





16) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.08 (Message 1498)
Posted 5 May 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
This one errored out:

http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=89670
(apparently for others also)

Result: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/result.php?resultid=102139

17) Message boards : Current tests : Continue crunching 5.06 Ralph?? (Message 1428)
Posted 29 Apr 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
I had these two in my cache at the same time:

Rosetta: AB_CASP6_t216__458_3090_0 http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/result.php?resultid=18451899

CPU time 11195.640625

stderr out

<core_client_version>5.4.6</core_client_version>
<stderr_txt>
# random seed: 2184411
# cpu_run_time_pref: 14400
# DONE :: 1 starting structures built 30 (nstruct) times
# This process generated 3 decoys from 3 attempts

</stderr_txt>


Ralph: AB_CASP6_t198__451_25_1 http://ralph.bakerlab.org/result.php?resultid=99001

CPU time 6211.5

stderr out

<core_client_version>5.4.6</core_client_version>
<stderr_txt>
# random seed: 3081944
# cpu_run_time_pref: 7200
# cpu_run_time_pref: 7200
# DONE :: 1 starting structures built 5 (nstruct) times
# This process generated 5 decoys from 5 attempts

</stderr_txt>


The difference may lie in my Target CPU run time, as I have

Rosetta: Target CPU run time 4 hours

Ralph: Target CPU run time 2 hours

Explanations, anybody?

18) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.03 (Message 1330)
Posted 24 Apr 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
My next one ran without erroring out, so I don't know if there was any watchdog or it was supposed to run normal.

http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=83916

Result: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/result.php?resultid=94405

19) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Debugger Stuff (Message 1327)
Posted 23 Apr 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
and 5.4.6 isn't far off either.


I think I'll wait for that. Have 5.4.4 at the moment.


20) Message boards : RALPH@home bug list : Bug reports for Ralph 5.03 (Message 1326)
Posted 23 Apr 2006 by Profile Fuzzy Hollynoodles
Post:
I had this one: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/workunit.php?wuid=83796

Result: http://ralph.bakerlab.org/result.php?resultid=94327

I looked to the graphic when I saw it running, and it was stuck at about 1% without any movements at all. So I suppose the watchdog did it's job by killing it after some time.

It ran about 80 minutes on my computer. It could have been killed a little sooner, I think, as it was totally dead, when I looked after about 45 minutes. I see the others, who ran it, did it in less time before it was killed.




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