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Message 1125 - Posted: 13 Apr 2006, 15:09:30 UTC

Is there a max time set for Ralph WU-s?

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Message 1187 - Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 2:19:39 UTC
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You can specify a max time for yourself, but RALPH/ROSETTA will always finish at least one run, even if takes longer than what you specify.

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Message 1190 - Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 2:59:32 UTC - in response to Message 1125.  

Is there a max time set for Ralph WU-s?

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The information provided by bt1228 is correct. However in Rosetta the current run time is server limited to 24 hours because of the 1% hang issue. The best information I have is that Raalph does not have any limits except those in the preferences. So the Max time could be set as high as 4 days for a single Work Unit.

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Message 1198 - Posted: 17 Apr 2006, 8:55:58 UTC - in response to Message 1190.  
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The best information I have is that Raalph does not have any limits except those in the preferences. So the Max time could be set as high as 4 days for a single Work Unit.

That\'s probably a good thing. A FACONTACTS_NOFILTERS WU I have is only 4.85% complete at 16.5 hours! It\'s still ripping through stepping on the first model so all should be well (I hope!).
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Message 1199 - Posted: 17 Apr 2006, 9:06:09 UTC

Not sure anyone has run into it, but with a 4 day setting, I would imagine there could come a point where one runs out of models in a given WU? On the HDLBR, at a 4 hour setting, I got 48+ models complete (48 when I last checked it, and it ran a bit over). This was on an Athlon 64 3500+...

At an 8 hour setting, the FACONTACTS got through about 60 or so models when I last checked, don\'t remember exactly... Which of course brings up 1 other thing with a 4 day setting, the variability in processor speed from say an Athlon FX 60! down to some Pentium II and IIIs, if anyone has attached any of those to this project. Not sure if they have...
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Message 1204 - Posted: 17 Apr 2006, 16:09:05 UTC - in response to Message 1190.  

Is there a max time set for Ralph WU-s?

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The information provided by bt1228 is correct. However in Rosetta the current run time is server limited to 24 hours because of the 1% hang issue. The best information I have is that Raalph does not have any limits except those in the preferences. So the Max time could be set as high as 4 days for a single Work Unit.



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Message 1208 - Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 0:23:33 UTC

Is 32 hours actual CPU processing time to reach 8.31% a bit much? This is a v4.99 WU (FACONTACTS_NOFILTERS_1scjB_381_7) that isn\'t stuck but seems to be taking forever! I have suspended other projects to allow it to focus exclusively on this WU, so there\'s no switching back and forth to disrupt it. If these are just large WU\'s I\'ll let it run, but I\'d like to know when to cut my lossess if there\'s something wrong!
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Message 1209 - Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 1:25:51 UTC
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4.99 seems to have a problem in that multiple models will finish (you can see the red dots in the graphics), yet it will still say \"model 1\". I had them running over 48 hours before I finally gave up and aborted them. (2 running and 1 waiting)

(yes they were also the \"FACONTACTS\" WU\'s.)
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Message 1282 - Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 2:44:21 UTC - in response to Message 1199.  

Not sure anyone has run into it, but with a 4 day setting, I would imagine there could come a point where one runs out of models in a given WU? On the HDLBR, at a 4 hour setting, I got 48+ models complete (48 when I last checked it, and it ran a bit over). This was on an Athlon 64 3500+...

At an 8 hour setting, the FACONTACTS got through about 60 or so models when I last checked, don\'t remember exactly... Which of course brings up 1 other thing with a 4 day setting, the variability in processor speed from say an Athlon FX 60! down to some Pentium II and IIIs, if anyone has attached any of those to this project. Not sure if they have...


The \"models\" are just runs starting at a different random point on the protein. So, no, you can\'t run out of them. We are a user-base aren\'t even running in to each other very often, that\'s how large the number of models is. That\'s part of the point, you can\'t process enough of the possible models on one machine, so the work is distributed to thousands.

The WU time preference is based on the CPU time you\'ve crunched on a WU, so the processor speeds don\'t matter. You just still have to complete at least one model, and on slower processors, that will more frequently take longer than a short 4hr run time.

So, 4 days is 4 days, and a P II is going to get fewer models done in 4 days than a P4, and... that\'s... O. K.
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Message 1283 - Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 6:39:51 UTC - in response to Message 1208.  

Hi guys, thanks for posting. 4.99 has a known problem, in which jobs get hung. Can you abort these workunits? Also, please post if you are having any similar issues with 5.00 or 5.01 WUs. We really need to know about them!


Is 32 hours actual CPU processing time to reach 8.31% a bit much? This is a v4.99 WU (FACONTACTS_NOFILTERS_1scjB_381_7) that isn\'t stuck but seems to be taking forever! I have suspended other projects to allow it to focus exclusively on this WU, so there\'s no switching back and forth to disrupt it. If these are just large WU\'s I\'ll let it run, but I\'d like to know when to cut my lossess if there\'s something wrong!


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