Max time

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anders n Send message Joined: 16 Feb 06 Posts: 166 Credit: 131,419 RAC: 0	Message 1125 - Posted: 13 Apr 2006, 15:09:30 UTC Is there a max time set for Ralph WU-s? Anders n ID: 1125 · Reply Quote

bt1228 Send message Joined: 22 Mar 06 Posts: 7 Credit: 9,385 RAC: 0	Message 1187 - Posted: 16 Apr 2006, 2:19:39 UTC Last modified: 16 Apr 2006, 2:19:51 UTC You can specify a max time for yourself, but RALPH/ROSETTA will always finish at least one run, even if takes longer than what you specify. --- bt ID: 1187 · Reply Quote

Divide Overflow Send message Joined: 15 Feb 06 Posts: 12 Credit: 128,027 RAC: 0	Message 1198 - Posted: 17 Apr 2006, 8:55:58 UTC - in response to Message 1190. Last modified: 17 Apr 2006, 8:56:27 UTC The best information I have is that Raalph does not have any limits except those in the preferences. So the Max time could be set as high as 4 days for a single Work Unit. That's probably a good thing. A FACONTACTS_NOFILTERS WU I have is only 4.85% complete at 16.5 hours! It's still ripping through stepping on the first model so all should be well (I hope!). ID: 1198 · Reply Quote

Nuadormrac Send message Joined: 22 Feb 06 Posts: 68 Credit: 11,362 RAC: 0	Message 1199 - Posted: 17 Apr 2006, 9:06:09 UTC Not sure anyone has run into it, but with a 4 day setting, I would imagine there could come a point where one runs out of models in a given WU? On the HDLBR, at a 4 hour setting, I got 48+ models complete (48 when I last checked it, and it ran a bit over). This was on an Athlon 64 3500+... At an 8 hour setting, the FACONTACTS got through about 60 or so models when I last checked, don't remember exactly... Which of course brings up 1 other thing with a 4 day setting, the variability in processor speed from say an Athlon FX 60! down to some Pentium II and IIIs, if anyone has attached any of those to this project. Not sure if they have... ID: 1199 · Reply Quote

anders n Send message Joined: 16 Feb 06 Posts: 166 Credit: 131,419 RAC: 0	Message 1204 - Posted: 17 Apr 2006, 16:09:05 UTC - in response to Message 1190. Is there a max time set for Ralph WU-s? Anders n The information provided by bt1228 is correct. However in Rosetta the current run time is server limited to 24 hours because of the 1% hang issue. The best information I have is that Raalph does not have any limits except those in the preferences. So the Max time could be set as high as 4 days for a single Work Unit. Thanks Anders n ID: 1204 · Reply Quote

Divide Overflow Send message Joined: 15 Feb 06 Posts: 12 Credit: 128,027 RAC: 0	Message 1208 - Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 0:23:33 UTC Is 32 hours actual CPU processing time to reach 8.31% a bit much? This is a v4.99 WU (FACONTACTS_NOFILTERS_1scjB_381_7) that isn't stuck but seems to be taking forever! I have suspended other projects to allow it to focus exclusively on this WU, so there's no switching back and forth to disrupt it. If these are just large WU's I'll let it run, but I'd like to know when to cut my lossess if there's something wrong! ID: 1208 · Reply Quote

genes Send message Joined: 16 Feb 06 Posts: 45 Credit: 43,706 RAC: 20	Message 1209 - Posted: 18 Apr 2006, 1:25:51 UTC Last modified: 18 Apr 2006, 1:28:15 UTC 4.99 seems to have a problem in that multiple models will finish (you can see the red dots in the graphics), yet it will still say "model 1". I had them running over 48 hours before I finally gave up and aborted them. (2 running and 1 waiting) (yes they were also the "FACONTACTS" WU's.) ID: 1209 · Reply Quote

feet1st Send message Joined: 7 Mar 06 Posts: 313 Credit: 116,623 RAC: 0	Message 1282 - Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 2:44:21 UTC - in response to Message 1199. Not sure anyone has run into it, but with a 4 day setting, I would imagine there could come a point where one runs out of models in a given WU? On the HDLBR, at a 4 hour setting, I got 48+ models complete (48 when I last checked it, and it ran a bit over). This was on an Athlon 64 3500+... At an 8 hour setting, the FACONTACTS got through about 60 or so models when I last checked, don't remember exactly... Which of course brings up 1 other thing with a 4 day setting, the variability in processor speed from say an Athlon FX 60! down to some Pentium II and IIIs, if anyone has attached any of those to this project. Not sure if they have... The "models" are just runs starting at a different random point on the protein. So, no, you can't run out of them. We are a user-base aren't even running in to each other very often, that's how large the number of models is. That's part of the point, you can't process enough of the possible models on one machine, so the work is distributed to thousands. The WU time preference is based on the CPU time you've crunched on a WU, so the processor speeds don't matter. You just still have to complete at least one model, and on slower processors, that will more frequently take longer than a short 4hr run time. So, 4 days is 4 days, and a P II is going to get fewer models done in 4 days than a P4, and... that's... O. K. ID: 1282 · Reply Quote

Rhiju Volunteer moderator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 14 Feb 06 Posts: 161 Credit: 3,725 RAC: 0	Message 1283 - Posted: 21 Apr 2006, 6:39:51 UTC - in response to Message 1208. Hi guys, thanks for posting. 4.99 has a known problem, in which jobs get hung. Can you abort these workunits? Also, please post if you are having any similar issues with 5.00 or 5.01 WUs. We really need to know about them! Is 32 hours actual CPU processing time to reach 8.31% a bit much? This is a v4.99 WU (FACONTACTS_NOFILTERS_1scjB_381_7) that isn't stuck but seems to be taking forever! I have suspended other projects to allow it to focus exclusively on this WU, so there's no switching back and forth to disrupt it. If these are just large WU's I'll let it run, but I'd like to know when to cut my lossess if there's something wrong! ID: 1283 · Reply Quote